Episode 77

Learn a Strategy to Build Revenue Streams in a Startup

Do you want peace of mind about your revenue? Then it needs to be built intentionally. More than just a sales or a good service or product, a revenue strategy, is about how you plan to take in money and use it to keep your business healthy and growing. This keeps you off of the "rollercoaster" e.g. a feast or famine mindset as an entrepreneur. It also keeps you from constantly having to sell—which defeats the purpose of building a business that serves you. In this episode, Pierce Brantley shares a strategy he gives to solo-preneurs to help them build a business that is sustainable. He does this by sharing three types of revenue and how they're used and categorized within the business.

This episode covers the topics of revenue, sales, building a business, strategy, growth, products, services, entrepreneurship, poverty mindset, Kingdom business, Apostle Paul.

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Welcome to lunch break a special weekly series of the

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Let's get into it.

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Well, hello and welcome back.

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Thank you for joining us for lunch break.

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I am Pierce Brantley cohost of the eternal entrepreneurial.

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And today I'm going to speak about revenue, who doesn't like a good

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helping conversation about revenue.

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Typically after a couple of cups of coffee in the morning, this conversation is going

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to be focused in on my solo preneurs, my startup owners, my holy hustlers, those

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who want to solve their revenue problem.

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If you are just building your business, you are both the CEO.

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You're the head of sales and you're the chief revenue officer.

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And if you don't get your revenue working, unless you have a plan to

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work from a loss for many years.

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And then in that typically that means you're building a super big

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company, then you need to go solve your revenue problem quickly.

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And this is particularly poignant for me because.

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As some of, my story, I grew up in some really adverse poverty.

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We grew up in a barn when it rained the barn reform, fill with water.

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Uh, we literally, we had a, uh, a, a laundry detergent

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bucket we got from Sam's.

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We would take that five gallon detergent bucket and we had two Wells.

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One was the Washington.

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Well, the other was the drinking.

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Well, and we'd take the concrete lid off the well, and we'd

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go fill up with water and.

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To describe all of this.

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What was the phrase that was normally, uh, coming from, uh, the table at dinner time?

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It was, when you work for yourself, it's feast, Stuart's famine.

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Sometimes it's feast in and sometimes it's feminine.

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And then we go back to talk about Paul and Paul would say, I know whether to

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a base or do a bound because, I know how to be in poverty or, or to have.

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And, he was in jail at the time.

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And if you have a poverty mindset, you take that to mean that

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there's going to be good times.

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There's going to be bad times and they're largely out of your control.

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It's true that there's good times and that there are bad times, uh, is

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not completely out of your control.

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I was looking at, uh, some fringe cryptocurrencies today, looking at, um,

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some things to throw some money away on.

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And I was looking at the ticker, the stock ticker is basically for

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those cryptocurrencies and looking at their historical values and

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thinking about investments in general and they go up and they go down

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and they go up and they go down.

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It is the exception to the rule.

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However, for them to all go down, generally speaking.

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These things appreciate, and the same should be true for your revenue.

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Your revenue should continually go up.

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Growth should be something that you are intentionally thinking about planning

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for and executing on every single day.

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And when you get off on side conversations about brand, or you get off inside

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of conversations about marketing, you get cut inside conversations about

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new product development or whatever.

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Those are all absolutely essential.

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Must have conversations for a business.

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But growth is something that does not happen by mistake.

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It's something that is executed on against, and for every single day of

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your entrepreneurial life, you have to plan it and execute against it.

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But the idea of living on a roller coaster, even though there may be some

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nuance, some, um, churn or attrition, On the whole on trend, you should be growing.

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And if you're not growing that's because you're not planning.

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And that may feel like a gut punch, especially if you're

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in a place of struggle.

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But what I want to do today is talk about just my own framework for, um, re.

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Now I'm a consultant.

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Um, and so there's just me, but I've also been an executive for large companies

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too, had exits from large companies.

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And, um, it doesn't really matter whether you're a solopreneur or a big company.

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There is a way in which you need to plan your revenue and I've helped some guy.

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Who are just solopreneurs go from freelancing to actually having

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a stable income, um, through just making some tweaks to the

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way they think about revenue.

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So most of us either have a product or a service.

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You have a product you need to sell X number of products in order to hit, a

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baseline or to, be able to feed your family or whatever you, so you have a.

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And the other group has a service or mixture of products and services, and

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you have some rate for that service.

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And so you want the service to continue as long as it can, or you

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want to get a really big client.

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And if you don't have really clear kind of numbers for either

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one of these things, then that's going to be your first problem.

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I'm going to assume that you have a set number for.

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Your product or for your service.

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So your product sells for X and there's, you know exactly

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how much margin you have on it.

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And if you have a service, you sell it exactly for X and you know exactly

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how much margin you have on it.

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If you don't have that figured out, go figure that out.

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Um, come back to this podcast and we'll talk from there.

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The, a way to avoid feast and famine is with three revenue streams.

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I know some of you, Solomon junkies think that you does seven revenue streams.

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If you can come up with seven revenue streams and manage

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all of them, go and do it.

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Uh, but in order to mitigate feast and famine, you need three revenue streams.

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The first revenue stream is what I call your bread and butter revenue stream.

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You need to reverse engineer.

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How much money you want to make a year or another way of thinking of this is

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you need to reverse engineer all of your expenses, your estimated expenses,

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your costs for different things, and the amount you want to pay yourself.

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And that is your bread and butter revenue.

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That is your baseline.

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And you need to go solve that with.

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Or we're too big contracts and you don't do anything else until you've

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got that bread and butter contract.

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And, uh, some people call this whale hunting and they don't want

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to be in the whale hunting business.

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That's fine.

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Don't be in the whale hunting business, but have a whale as part of your

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portfolio, don't make your whole business about hunting whales, but go solve.

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Your, um, your lights on revenue, go solve that before solving anything else?

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The reason I say that is because, there's different frameworks out

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there for like gold prioritization during the year or whatnot.

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And then, uh, it's called, uh, the rocks approach.

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We've got to figure out what rocks you want in your quarter.

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The same is true for like the, the, the childhood fable where,

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you know, if you put rocks.

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In a glass jar, and then you put your pebbles in the glass jar, then you

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Sandy glass jar, everything fits.

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But if you start with your sand and then your rocks, are you saying

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it, the new pebbles, you never going to have room for the rocks?

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The same is true for big revenue.

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If you are hyper-focused on.

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Selling tons and tons and tons of like low, um, uh, an

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affordable, um, but cheap item.

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You're going to be spinning your tires, wasting energy, selling that

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thing, and you might sell a lot of them, but you're going to find that

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you're constantly spinning your wheels.

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You're constantly exhausted.

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You're constantly looking for the next sale.

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Get out of that because that's what causes fatigue.

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That's what causes you from that.

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That's what requires you to work in the business and on the business.

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And it's also in the quiet moments.

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What makes you feel like a failure?

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It makes you wonder why you got into entrepreneurship to begin with solve

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your rocks, problem, solve your bread and butter revenue problem first.

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And it needs to be annualized.

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I even say, go look for multi-year contracts.

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And if you sell a product, you say, how do I sell a multi-year kind

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of contract, go to a Walmart or a target or a, uh, something like that.

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And, uh, don't stop until you get into a big box store.

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Like, and I'm talking about, don't go to bed at night.

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Like you have to live in breathe, go getting something that you can,

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that's going to cause enough revenue for you to be able to go focus on

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these two other revenue streams.

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Otherwise you are going to be jumping from bill to bill.

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You're going to be jumping from contract to contract, and you're going to feel.

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Like a freelancer or you're going to feel like an incompetent business owners.

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So go solve that first big bread and butter contract that's revenue stream one.

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And I think it's foundational to being able to, get your

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business into a healthy place.

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This is what, um, this also gives you a, a reset on Z.

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So, this is just good kind of business metrics in general.

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Uh, Joe and I actually do this with the podcast.

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We talk about what our new zero marker is, and it's not zero.

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It's a different number.

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The same should be true for your bottom of the line revenue.

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So in my business, I have bottom of the line revenue and I'm always

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trying to raise that baseline, meaning, uh, I, God willing God

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facilitating three months from now.

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I knew what my zero number is.

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I won't go beneath that number in terms of revenue.

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And you should always be looking to raise that floor.

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That floor should needs to intentionally grow, but you've got to start

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with a baseline and that starts with a bread and butter contract.

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If you're not thinking about baseline zeros, like, uh, what,

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what, what your floor is for.

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I mean, we will never have less than this in revenue then you're constantly

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going to be just trying to go grab revenue and that's exhausting.

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You can't do it.

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So, all right.

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I think we understand that's revenue stream one, go figure out your

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floor, go figure it out, analyze some contract that or some service

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agreement that's going to work for that.

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And don't do anything else until you go do that one.

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Uh, revenue stream, number two, this is like, um, I would say

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these are chunky contracts.

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Um, and these with products, this is where you're building in bundles.

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So, maybe you sell a widget and.

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That's going to be like, you typically, you just sell one or two or three of

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them where you sell one to one customer, whatever, find some way of bundling.

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So like Gillette does this by intentionally separating their razors

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from, uh, their, uh, the handles.

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And then they also sell, um, uh, what is it?

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Um, uh, shaving cream.

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My mind.

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Their main product is raisers.

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Why do you buy Gillette?

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You buy Gillette for the race.

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But they have broken up their product into multiple pieces, and

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then they sell them all as a bundle.

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You can buy each piece individually, but bundling is better for the customer

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and they also make more revenue as well and increases their, their footprint.

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So this might require rearchitecting, if you are thinking about, um, if you have

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a product, um, but the best product.

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Well, let me pause.

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We often think that we want to, we want to provide really good service

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or provide a really good product.

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And so we just try and build the best thing that we can and

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say, we build the best widget in whatever category we think of.

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And we're really proud of that.

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The problem is perceived value for a customer is often different from

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the way that we build in value.

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Products most of the time sell better when they're broken up into multiple pieces.

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That's why, uh, a iPhone has, um, the case is separate.

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You can determine how much, how many gigabytes you want in the case.

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You can determine whether or not you want iCloud storage or iTunes, or,

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music, everything is broken apart.

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And that's a mixture of products and services, but that's.

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That's done on purpose.

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And if you're selling everything is one big thing, try breaking apart and

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bundling it and then selling it for more.

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Um, the customer gets that and it's going to create, uh, more revenue for you.

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If you're in a service-based industry, then the way you do the

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second stream of revenue is by getting a low time high value client.

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Where you are doing things that, um, or you're offering services that are big

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ticket, um, but they don't pay the bills.

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So, maybe you got a $50,000 speaking gig or consulting

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contract or something like that.

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And it maybe takes, I don't know, 80, 80 hours of your time or, um, 40 hours

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of your time, or, um, it's only going to, it's going to be gone in a month.

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It looks like a big number.

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It is a big number, but after taxes and expenses and everything else,

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does it help your bottom line?

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Absolutely.

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Are they a good client to have?

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Absolutely.

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But it's layered on top of your, your bread and butter services.

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And I would say, don't go pursue these things.

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Um, unless it, you already have your bread and butter services taken care of,

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unless somehow it's, uh, it sells into.

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It sells into, um, your bread and butter thing.

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So let's say you want someone to spend 50,000 with you so that

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they'll spend 200,000 with you.

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Well, that's okay.

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So long as that's an intentional strategy that you have, if it's

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not intentional strategy that.

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Go solve the first problem first, by the way, uh, with products, a lot of products

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now have services built into them.

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We just use the iPhone example.

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Um, I would do the same thing too.

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So like we just bought a car from my wife.

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The car was X amount of dollars.

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Um, but we also bought a, uh, it's like five years of oil change.

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With it as well.

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And that's built into, uh, the contract that we are the, the, the, yeah, it is a

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contract, but you know what I'm saying?

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The bill, um, the monthly bill as well, so build bread and butter

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services into your, your products, um, that are bundled like that.

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And that will also help you continue to raise that floor.

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But that has to be intentional too.

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So, and then last but not least.

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This is where we get things wrong is the, um, uh, this is

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high-frequency low dollar services.

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And so this is where most businesses start.

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So they say, uh, we sell cookies.

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So like they're a bakery.

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And so we just want to sell cookies and, in order to keep the lights on and we need

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to sell 200 cookies a day or a thousand cookies a day in order to keep the lights.

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That should really be your last revenue stream.

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Uh, you're not in the cookie business, you're in the entertainment industry.

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So how you're solving entertainment, um, or you're really a marketing business.

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And so you should be on, Tik TOK and YouTube, and you should have a

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cooking show and everything else.

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And yet, do you sell cookies?

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Yes.

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But your money is coming actually from advertising because your cookies are so.

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Or you're, you're selling to corporations or something like that.

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The cookie is not the product, but you can still sell the cookie.

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Um, but it needs to be the last thing that you think about the absolute,

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last thing that you think about.

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And this really comes back to understanding what business

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are you really in the business I'm in, uh, oftentimes include.

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Uh, interface design.

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So like the buttons that you look at on a screen, but I don't

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sell buttons on the screen.

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Sometimes that happens to include, um, the work I do, but I'm never

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selling buttons on the screen.

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A bakery does not sell cookies, a car business, um, or like

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a, a dealership doesn't sell.

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Um, you're you're in a top most category and the category is what counts.

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So that last revenue stream needs to be high-frequency low

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revenue, and it's just the icing on top of all your other revenue.

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Once you have your bread and butter, once you have your big ticket

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converters, move back into your brand.

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And then last but not least, you have high-frequency low revenue.

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And I just say low time too, this is like ad hoc services.

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Um, then you have something that's really, really well-rounded.

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So this is a shotgun approach to building out your revenue.

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Uh, and when you cover these three revenue streams, you greatly mitigate

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the feeling of being on a roller coaster in your own business.

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So those Selldown services are super, super important for that.

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So that's my encouragement to you guys this week.

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If you haven't thought about.

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How to create sustainable revenue.

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That needs to be something that you, you think about now, uh, you might be

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thinking, well, I'm very sales oriented.

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That's great, but that makes you a perpetual hustler.

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What you want to be doing is someone who perpetually enjoys the revenue

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coming from their business, which means at some point you do actually

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stop hustling because your systems, your revenue model is working for.

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Otherwise, you're just a glutton for punishment and that's

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something to be proud of.

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So, okay guys, um, my action for you guys this week is go do analysis.

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See if, uh, you have those three revenue streams defined for your business and

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making sure that they play into lo raising that floor on a regular basis.

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I look at it once a year and I probably do health checks, once

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a month, actually on that road.

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Uh, and then you start to plan for that model, your marketing, your sales

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approach, everything else, should we be reflective of your revenue strategy?

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And that way the system is beginning to play off of and work off of.

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All right.

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My friends have a great week and don't forget to think.

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